What if we grew 311's fan base?

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  1. Scott Sandwich

    Scott Sandwich Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, come to think of it, them playing with different bands that don't do the same kind of thing could be a good way to attract more people. Less reggae bands, more bands like New Politics that are different from them and popular with younger audiences. So...not The Offspring. But whatever, maybe that's also good, getting 90s music fans who forgot about them to get back into them.
     
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  2. SlowCrates

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    Young people don't care about skills, or range of styles, though, either. They care about what is catchy and/or cool. 311 isn't cool anymore, but they still have some swagger. if 311 would just release one of their cooler songs, and promote that with their innate swag, it would have a chance to catch fire. But they give that shit out for free, and promote Too Much To Think, instead -- which is a nice, radio-friendly song, but it's safe, and it's not cool.

    I think they need to go the blue album route, punchy songs with infectious rhythms, vocals that jump in right away and get you singing as you're nodding your head and tapping your toes. Take the coolest song from that album and promote the ever living hell out of it. Then keep that energy going at the shows.
     
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  3. SlowCrates

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    They should switch it up, too, I think. Headline with 90's bands in the summer, then open for bigger, newer bands in the fall. Why not?
     
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  4. coda19

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    I actually want the shows to decrease in size. I long for the day when they start doing club tours again
     
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  5. REVO1059

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    When is the last time 311 wasn't headlining a tour (not a one off festival). Would they be willing to play "second seat" to a newer bigger band to get more exposure?
     
  6. jukeboxgroove

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    I heard that is a possibility
     
  7. Shoupaloop

    Shoupaloop Well-Known Member

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    FML, could you imagine the setlists?
     
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  8. AxelAlexK

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    Rock music just isn't in at all right now. It's dead in the mainstream. I don't know why exactly, but few kids in their teens and 20s today listen to rock. Not like we did in the 90s and 00s. As such 311 at this point is (and should) just focus on their core fanbase and cater to them. They'd have to change too much to "fit in" into what is popular right now. And 311 had their time in the spotlight, it's about maintaining fans not gaining new ones that this point. All bands have a peak and then go down from there. 311 had theirs, it's OK at this point if they just focus on making music for their core fans rather than the radio.
     
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    Isn't the club shows typically the fall/spring tour? I saw them at HoB Myrtle Beach 2 years ago and it was awesome. Every place in the venue was a good view/seat

    I'm all done with the summer shows with this summer's show sets being the perfect reason.
     
  10. robb

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    does anyone else live 311
     
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  11. justplainatom

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    Only washed up & live
     
  12. robb

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    stay peterson and love your wife
     
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    Too old to give a fuck. Blast 311 while you're driving and turn it down when you get to a stop light.
     
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    Is there something else you can live?
     
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    I don't know.

    live 311.jpg
     
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    All these years I've been living 311 and I could have been living calligraphy??? Damn.
     
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  17. Robstar

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    I've noticed the sheer decline in age range at shows the last 5-6 years. When I first started going to 311 shows, there were teenagers, college kids, etc. present simply because it was a "cool thing" to do. Was it annoying? Yes. But also in a way, kind of fun to see so many styles of people coming together to see "my band".

    What can they do to appeal to such a wide range of people again? Cutting it with the TMTT bullshit is one. All the singles from Uplifter to present have been contrived, poppy, easy-listening bullshit. It's apparent to average radio listeners that don't buy albums and don't listen to the entire album that 311 is a dead band because of radio/streaming single choices alone.

    Hit them with that swag, and do what they do best. We've been saying it for years. Don't go out and try to make a single thats popular. A song like Extension not as the first single was a huge mistake. This would have certainly gained some traction with people outside immediate fanbase.
     
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  18. SlowCrates

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    I mean, it's not that far out of their wheel house.
     
  19. speakeasy29

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    I left that comment so long ago, I completely forgot I made it. It was obviously facetious. As much as I’d hate them to take this route, one tactic to grow would work the festival circuit hard. They did a lot more this year and I’d be curious if it resulted in anyone new checking them out. Or anyone who was semi familiar rechecking them out. (Why/how I added Foo Fighters to my lineup.) Though the playlists — called out in the comment above — would need to accentuate the swag vs. be GH, or they will have detractors in the core base who they also need at those shows for heightened energy. Do you think anyone looks at correlation of touring to song plays on streaming sites? What level of access do artists have to those numbers and details behind them?

    I read an article on Greta Van Fleet where Alice Cooper was quoted stating that guitar rock is making a comeback. Maybe we need a similar band to 311 to pop up and get similar press. While they’ve tried to distance themselves from the Led Zeppelin parallels, I’m sure of you mapped people streaming GVF to spikes in LZ discovery, there would be a correlation. Would the band have to be younger? Do younger people want to see guys pushing 50 on stage? I would say they should target growing the 30+ crowd. But with this crowd you’re competing for earbud/stereo time with podcasts, audio books, etc. Maybe I’m projecting based on my own behavior, but my audio share has less and less music in it as I get older. It’s sad.

    Note this reply was made pre-coffee.
     
  20. Scott Sandwich

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    I don't think I could call Five of Everything poppy or easy-listening, lol. But I appreciate the criticism of single choices even though I like TMTT and think it should've done better than it did. That said, while I like Extension, in my experience it only appeals to 311 fans, and no one else I've played it for liked it much at all, and many disliked it. People on the BB have said they've had different experiences with their friends, but I mean, seriously, no one I've played Extension for likes it unless they're 311 fans. Many of them liked TMTT, so...I dunno.
     

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