The Impossible: Rank the Songs on Grassroots

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  1. Cleon

    Cleon Well-Known Member

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    Whenever I think of albums and ranking their songs and which are favorites and least favorites and whatnot, Grassroots always stands out. I think it's 311's most all-round solid album (not necessarily best, but most solid) and incredibly difficult to rank the songs on. I think Blue's up there too, but Grassroots always stumps me and in a good way.

    So, rank the songs on Grassroots from favorite to least favorite. This took me forever.

    1. Six
    2. 1, 2, 3
    3. Homebrew
    4. Applied Science (not the live version as it's getting old)
    5. 8:16 a.m.
    6. Offbeat Bare Ass
    7. Nutsymtom
    8. Omaha Stylee
    9. Taiyed
    10. Salsa
    11. Lucky
    12. Silver
    13. Lose
    14. Grassroots

    Lose is hard to rank. If i'm in the mood for it, it's dope. But I don't listen to it as often as the rest above it.......i don't know, it's still great. All these songs are great.

    Feel bad for ranking Silver so low, that one's killer especially live. Fuck this is hard

    Good luck
     
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    Homebrew - Probably not "the best", but on an album this close it's just an anthem for the band. A preview of the swag to come on Blue.

    Taiyed - Just smooth as hell. This used to be bottom third for me until sort of recently, but I know know it's just a pure syrup-y flow.

    Applied Science - The live version has done everything it could to make you want to write it off. But it's still a jam on record.

    Omaha Stylee - This song is weird for me. On some days, it fights for #1. Other days, I am whatever with it. But it's a great track.

    123 - Another "smooth" track - it's like a warm bath.

    Salsa - That ray gun vocal effect at the beginning kicks it off. They just kill it on the vocal delivery.

    8:16 - A classic jam. But something about it never clicked fully for me and brought it top tier.

    Nutsymtom - A fuzzy, messy, aggressive, 2+ minute spitter. The "In Utero" track on the album.

    Lucky - Paint by the numbers track. But a great one.

    Silver - It's good. I don't have much else to add to that.

    Offbeat - SA, in the rarest of rare examples, brings this song down.

    Lose - It's a solid slow jam, it just sinks down on an album like this

    Six - I like this a lot more live. On album it sounds too hollow and all the musical aspect sound too separated.

    Grassroots - Not a bad song, just has so little to make it stand out.
     
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  3. Cleon

    Cleon Well-Known Member

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    When I was doing this, I felt like I was ranking Offbeat and Nutsymtom too high, but the parts I like of those songs hit so hard for me.

    With Offbeat, SA's middle verse is, well, questionable haha; a lot of people are deterred from it, I kinda just am 'whatever' with it. But Nick's opener and closer with that raw beat just slays. It puts the track relatively high for me.

    With Nutsymtom, the first half is just so good. I like that vocal distortion with faster tunes, like with What Was I Thinking. SA and Nick both kill it, and Tim, Chad, and Pnut are all grinding hard. So sick. I'm not that huge on the second half instrumental; it's good, and i like it structurally as this outro jam, but i'm just not in love with it. But the first half alone makes this song for me. I could see it being lower but I think the first half will always keep it from the 'bottom' for me.
     
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    1. Omaha Stylee
    2. Homebrew
    3. Lucky
    4. Nutsymptom
    5. 1, 2, 3
    6. Offbeat Bareass
    7. Silver
    8. Salsa
    9. Taiyed
    10. Applied Science
    11. Grassroots
    12. 8:16 AM
    13. Lose
    14. Six
     
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    1. Salsa
    2. Lucky
    3. Omaha Stylee
    4. Six
    5. Taiyed
    6. Lose
    7. Silver
    8. Nutsymptom
    9. Homebrew
    10. 123
    11. 816am
    12. Applied Science
    13. Grassroots
    14. Offbeat Bareass
     
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    Not hard at all.

    1. Omaha Stylee
    2. Grassroots
    3. 8:16 AM
    4. Six
    5. Nutsymptom
    6. Applied Science
    7. Homebrew
    8. 123
    9. Lucky
    10. Taiyed
    11. Lose
    12. Silver
    13. Salsa
    14. Offbeat Bareass
     
  7. Sharkey

    Sharkey Well-Known Member

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    8:16 AM is WAY too damn high
     
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    Grassroots is WAY too damn low
     
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    It has a terrible chorus, the only major flaw of the whole album. Is what it is
     
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    So agree. It's akin to Livin and Rockin for me. Way too self indulgent.
     
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    The drums and verses definitely make up for it. It might actually be my favourite Grassroots track.
     
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    I absolutely love everything else about it, but that part sticks out like a sore thumb.
     
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    I think it's just dumb, lazy and uncreative. The exact opposite of the rest of the album

    I love LnR chorus though. It's that cocky confident swagger that made them who they are
     
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    Demo > Studio :ninja:
     
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    Haha no way dude
     
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    Just playing. THAT is a shitty chorus if there ever was one.
     
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    LnR is the band totally playing with house money. The chorus arguably sucks, but with the swagger* they were working with, they pull it off. From start to finish, it's just a frantic boast. The only thing that makes closing the album with it less of a giant FU is the fact that the previous album closed with a similarly rocking (but way better) track.

    *Swagger is the word we use for Blue. It's perfect for it. But Soundsystem had a good amount of leftover swagger, just mixed in with more out of the box creativity. Hell, the band saw fit to change that suddenly iconic logo. I remember at the time being very unhappy with the change. I still want the "real" logo, but knowing how good Soundsystem is, I also now like seeing that logo on stuff.

    LnR could have easily turned into another Juan Bond. A fast, aggressive boast track with not a ton of creativity or substance. I don't even fully know how LnR pulls it off, but it does. It's a rager, and it's awesome.
     
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    This goes hand in hand with my other post. LnR seems like a by the numbers rocking jam. But when you see what the previous incarnation was - hoo boy does the album version kick that much more ass. That demo chorus.

    There were many questionable parts on Arch1v311113ve. But unless I am forgetting something, LnR's demo chorus was the only thing that actually made me laugh.
     
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    I know you’re referring to T&P Combo but I snickered imagining Stealing Happy Hours as a hard rocking album closer like LnR.
     
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    My favorite lyrics from Grassroots: her ass is a marvelous thing.

    Quite honesty, I can't understand half of the lyrics but there's a line.
     
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