Marshall JVM or Mesa Boogie Rectifier?

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  1. luigikart311

    luigikart311 Well-Known Member

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    I was looking at high gain amps for playing 311 songs. Does anyone here have a Mesa Rectifier or Marshall JVM?
     
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    Running123 Well-Known Member

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    Where the fuck have you been?
     
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    Oh and to answer your question, I have a fender mustang ii that does a good approximation.
     
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    luigikart311 Well-Known Member

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    I want a high-end tube amp. I am willing to spend over $1000 for one.
     
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    Quit dodging the question:

     
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    I have been busy lately with getting a termite inspection and air conditioning installed. I have returned. I have also been looking at the Mesa Boogie Triple Crown and the Marshall Silver Jubilee.
     
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    I have owned both JVM and a Rectifier but it depends on which tone you are wanting to attain? His older sound comes from a recto but his newer tones have come from a Diamond Phantom/Spitfire II and his Bogner Uberscall. A Rectifer will put you in the direction of Transistor and the Blue Album and a JVM will put you closer to MOSAIC and Stereolithic.
     
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    The Mesa Boogie Triple Crown can take EL-34s, 6L6s, and 6V6s. 6V6s are rare in high gain amps, but the Triple Crown takes them. What would 6V6s in a high gain amp sound like?
     
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    6V6s are typically found in lower watt amps so they don't have the headroom found in 6L6s so they will break up sooner. I'm not sure of any artists that prefer 6V6 over 6L6 or EL34 in a high gain setting.
     
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    Considering the diamond amps have been dropping in price drastically I think it would be your best bet...the quality is insane. I have two diamond spec ops.. I would sell one for sure as I don't play out much anymore.
     
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    This man/woman speaks truth, generally.
     
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    And btw, if you want to know what a spec op sounds like in context of 311 listen to any unity tour 2007 recording of Tim. He played with two spec ops that summer. My all time favorite Mahoney tone. He ditched them for the phantom the following year which is almost the same exact amp from a tonality perspective.
     
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    EL-34 or 6L6 Phantom? Which is used by Tim? Diamond used to make EL-34 amps, but now makes 6L6.
     
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    These are EL-34 I believe.

    Spec op was diamond's first amp for sale. Don't think there were as many made. It sounds amazing.
     
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    Tim told me personally that his spec op was modified by Jeff...I didn't ask exact details so
    It's safe to say that there is a slight difference.. perhaps the tubes were different in Tim's?
     
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    Diamond actually uses 5881 tubes, which are closer to EL-34s.

    Tim's modded Diamond is a Hertic amp inside the Phantom casing. Tim's Diamond and Uberschall are both EL-34. This info is from a Guitar Player interview when stereolithic came out.

    I have a Phantom w EL-34 and couldn't be happier with it. It sounds better than my JVM and boasts better cleans than me Dual Rec.
     
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    Oh man, 2007 may have been the best he's ever sounded.
     
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    That's what I think :)
     
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    No. 5881's are closer to 6L6s. 5881 is more like a 6L6. What about a Diamond with 5881s? Should I try a Mesa Boogie Triple Crown with 6V6s?
     
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    So what amp are you going to get?
     
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