Has 311 ever released consecutive albums with the same production quality?

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  1. SlowCrates

    SlowCrates Well-Known Member

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    Music is extremely raw. Grassroots is muddy. The self title has way more bounce in the bass, but it's still a little dim next to Transistor which is incredibly dub heavy. Then Soundsystem is the loudest and most crisp album to that point in their career. After that, the "live" recorded from chaos album which has a wonderful range, but raw vibe to it. Then the arguably over produced evolver. Don't tread on me was lifeless compared to that. We get way over produced and loud as shit Uplifter followed by the flat as a wall Universal Pulse. Then the slightly dim, quiet Stereolithic followed by the Loud and crisp, yet lacking low end Mosaic.

    Which two albums had the most similar production quality?

    If their songs were jumbled together would they fit?
     
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    jukeboxgroove Well-Known Member

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    The most similar to me would be Transistor and Soundsystem
     
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    Not sure if I still feel this way, but early on when I got into 311, I must have thought Blue and Transistor sounded alike. So much so, that I thought Beautiful Disaster was from Blue. I didn't know Transistor existed. At the time, I thought their discography went Blue-Soundsystem-From Chaos.
     
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    Mosaic doesn't lack low end. I can attest. It's probably my favorite 311 album on the high-fi. On a roll is missing the low-end (like it's out of phase or something.) But, the rest is great.
     
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    If you enjoy it I'm happy for you but I yearn for more bass in the album. There's no life there. It's not nearly as bad as Universal Pulse, but it's probably second. The rest of it is produced perfectly in my opinion.
     
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    I’d say Evolver-DTOM were the closest, production quality-wise. The production on DTOM is essentially the same as on Evolver, it’s just a little less refined. Quite comparable, though.

    Soundystem and Mosaic have the best production quality, IMHO, although I prefer Transistor’s out-there dub-style production the most. (The Blue Album and Music just below those mentioned above.)
     
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    Yeah, I'm with you on that.
     
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    I do love the glossiness of Transistor and Soundsystem as I feel it fits the music perfectly. However, I love the total rawness that the Blue Album brings to the table. That, in turn, also matches the music on the album IMO.
     
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    I concour on Transistor-Soundsystem.

    Honorable mention, though not the cleanest, precise, or balanced, Music seems like the best for me to hear every nuance of the melodies. Wish Grassroots would've been in that quality.
     
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    Was gonna say blue and the zist.

    Im sure im wrong. But at least i wont get homework assigned to me about it.
     
  11. Braddogxb

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    You can have your own opinions, but you cannot have your own facts. Find out if this is factual. Do your due diligence. Class dismissed.

    I expect your work sheet in the coming days.
     
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    I definitely get this. Blue through SS sounds like a loose trilogy. But for me, Blue-Transistor sounds the closest.

    Soundsystem is weaponized 311. Take the Blue swagger, mixed with Transistor's out of the box-ness, and dial it up to 12 (going to 11 can't handle Soundsystem).

    I definitely won't argue against Transistor-Soundsystem, but I just think SS is on some next level clean sounding levels.
     
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  13. Cleon

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    ^I think Blue->Transistor sound similar, but it's clouded from their styles being so different. But Borders sounds exactly like a Blue song. Parts of Guns really reminds me of Transistor vibe. Even though theyre both bsides, Outside and Writer's Block Party remind me so much of each other.

    From Chaos -> Evolver sound similar to me, but really just vocally. not really instrumentally. But it honestly might just be because I grew up listening to a FC/Evolver heavy mix haha. Comparing the two as im listening right now, they really don't sound too much alike production wise. Yeah....scratch that, I'm not going with FC/Evolver haha.

    I'm not going with Soundsystem -> From Chaos, but I will say Bomb the Town sounds exactly like a SS song.

    I can see Transistor -> Soundsystem. Eons sounds very much like a Transistor song.

    I think I'm going with Blue->Transistor

    I will say, though, the only time the production ever bothers me is with DTOM and UP. Well, and Downstairs EP :D. DTOM seems rushed so that explains it, but I dont know what the fuck happened with UP, coming right after Uplifter, which has one of their best productions.
     
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    I hope the next album is produced somewhere between Trans, SS, and Evolver. Crisp and full.
     
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    Transistor & Soundsystem for me.
    But I have a feeling that Mosaic & the 2019 album might sound even closer alike.
     
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    I totally agree.
    I think the biggest thing that has to happen for that though is for Chad to go back to his old drum sound. Sadly it seems like he's addicted to the recent "thud" snare sound as opposed to the old, crisp pop.. #prayers #bringbackoursnare
     
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    I think the 2 options here that work are Blue and Transistor and Evolver and DTOM.

    Blue and Transistor are similar in tone, though Transistor has a lot more noises and whatnot and is considerably more polished. But there are moments that can be compared: The scrunch in Down and the post-chorus of BD; the verse riffs of Guns and Tune In seem to be similar production-wise.

    I don’t think Transistor and Soundsystem are similar because SS’ guitars have a staticky quality. It feels like perhaps the only album where the bass is mixed as high as the guitars. And they’ve never done what they’ve did with the drums before or since. There’s a plasticine, sinewy sounds to the bass drum, and it’s mixed right up front and center to punch you in the face with every beat. I think SS’ production is too much of an outlier to sound like anything else—it’s on an island of its own.

    Evolver and DTOM are probably close. DTOM is a little underproduced, but they’re similar in that they’re just competently recorded, no-frills records. It just seems like a little more polish went into Evolver.

    It’s close, but I think I’ll go with Blue and Transistor.
     
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    I completely agree with this. Soundsystem doesn't sound like anything else they've released. They were on a whole other level with that album.
     
  19. SlowCrates

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    Well, I mean, they were deliberate with a rock angle. It's not as spacey and echoe-y as Transistor, but a fair amount of the style and effects did make it over to the album. Mindspin and Sever would fit right into Transistor. The crispness and volume are also compatible.
     
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