From Chaos

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  1. ninjames

    ninjames Well-Known Member

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    I want to open up a thread about from Chaos. And I want to know all of your thoughts

    From Chaos is a special album to me because it brought me back to 311. I was 15 when this album came out and I had not listened to any 311 since I was about 12. Up until From Chaos I thought the Blue album was 311's first album and Transistor was their second. If it wasn't for From Chaos I may never had decided to go to best buy and buy all the other albums.

    I'll Be Here Awhile, Amber, Champagne, and Hostile Apostle all blew my mind when my buddy would make me listen to From Chaos.

    Anyway, From Chaos is an underrated album IMO and if it weren't for Amber being Amber I think people would love the album more.

    It was also awesome that the girls were listening to this album a lot too at the time.... because at age 15, that's all I started to care about.. girls.. weed... guitar... pools.. girls in wet t-shirts in the pool.. trying to get them to take the t shirts off... ok.. I'm ending this post.
     
  2. SlowCrates

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    While Ninja makes a Mess I would like to add my experience with this great album.

    I used to take a boom box with me to a local epic rope swing, so my best friends and I could listen to 311 while we did acrobatic stunts through the air on our way to wicked belly flops. I wish we had recorded it, because to this day those are some of the best memories of my life.

    From Chaos was new then, so it was in rotation most of the time. It was also the first album I bought after owning my first car, so it will forever be tethered to awesome memories, and feelings of adventure and freedom.

    Critiquing the album back then, I detected a lack of heart in the rap/rock songs. They seemed a little stiff, and formulaic, as if they could belch out a decent rap/rock song in their sleep. Amber was a delicious change of pace at the time, as I was more than ready to hear the "melodic gems like Purpose" as they described them.

    I didn't appreciate the production enough at the time. Now I think it holds up with their best work. Just listen to the way all the instruments shine individually, and together in Wake Your Mind Up. You can really feel everything they're doing.

    I've grown to appreciate this transitional record more and more over the years, even though I also see it as the catalyst for the string of contrived albums we got for the next decade.
     
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  3. MarleysChains

    MarleysChains Well-Known Member

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    This is what I posted in the favorite tracks thread for From Chaos. I would write something new, but this perfectly sums up my thoughts on the album.


    This may not be the album that’s thought of the highest by fans, and I have it in my very good category rather than Elite. But, it’s the album that I’m most grateful for and if I get the chance to meet Nick I will thank him for this album. It got me through a point in my life that was really rough. I was going through probably the worst breakup I ever had. Not due to heartbreak, but because how horrible the breakup itself was. The first time I heard this album was the first time I felt at that moment that everything was going to work itself out. The first time I heard the song From Chaos, I think I listened to it at least 6 times in a row and I still get chills whenever they play it live. They may have albums that are better artistically and it’s not my favorite album of theirs, but this album, at that time in my life, just got me like nothing else.
     
  4. jukeboxgroove

    jukeboxgroove Well-Known Member

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    From Chaos has aged splendidly. Part of that was because of the dark years, but even now, it's still really solid.

    You Get Worked has no business being on this album. Bomb The Town is the obvious opener, made too early maybe and they let it go to a failed soundtrack.

    It's one of their most sonically pleasing albums. It's as eclectic as most others. I love how a lot of the lyrics have the same themes of perseverance and overcoming adversity. Still had swagger, but also started some of the cringey cheese (Full Ride).

    Favorites would be Uncalm, Hostile Apostle, Wake Your Mind Up, I'll Be Here Awhile, I Told Myself.

    And You Wouldn't Believe was an amazing first single. I think the instrumental is so cool. Great live too. So many great memories tied in with that song and album in summer 2001.
     
  5. robb

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    This will absolutely affect someone's opinion on an album, good or bad. Soundsystem is that way for me, but that album doesn't need any personal bias help, it just rules regardless.

    From Chaos is a weird album for me. I like every track, but something about the album just goes right through me, I don't know why. It's an album that's just... there.

    But Uncalm is top echelon songs for me, probably top 5. Sick Tight made me rage when I heard it live before hearing it on the album.

    I can definitely see people calling FC underrated. Actually, I think I called it their most underrated album a little while back.

    And yeah, we don't want to hear it live anymore - but Amber is a fantastic song.
     
  6. robb

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    This is the kind of story that sounds incredibly stupid to everyone who wasn't there. Because honestly, talking about a rope swing and 311 on a boom box being some of the best memories sounds stupid as hell.

    Except, we all get this kind of story. We want our younger "epic" stories to be that we went skydiving, then when we landed we went surfing and then had a bonfire party like in She's All That. But for probably all of us, our most exciting and emotive memories are simple stuff like you mentioned. Just having fun and only realizing much later how important it was.


    Fantastic critique - I agree with almost all of it.
     
  7. SurferCaliSoca

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    Ive always appreciated and have said many good things about From Chaos in the past, its my personal favorite album from 311, i can go on and on about it.. but the first thing out of several things that got my attention when i first heard this album the night of June 19th, 2001 (wow) was the guitars tones/styles, it was really refreshing to me. It does have its bad moments (im not going to state the obvious, we know what they are) but there is so much more good then bad. This is when 311 started maturing, just starting their 30's. I remember reading the tracklist to learn that there were 4 additional b-sides that year and i was like shit we'll never hear em and boy was i stoked when it was announced that ETSD 2 coming out and will include the From Chaos b-sides because lets face it Bomb the Town and Dreamland are awesome. The tracklist to FC flowed perfectly imo, they tried new things and it worked. Theres maybe one or two songs i can pass on but to me its still a great album. 2001 i was 15 and it was a good year to be a 311 fan no doubt. I would do a track by track review, but done that a million times before.

    Top tracks i like alot:

    -Sick Tight
    -Wake Your Mind Up
    -Hostile Apostle
    -Champagne
    -You Wouldnt Believe/From Chaos/I Told Myself (i cant even.. decide)
    -Uncalm

    -Bomb the Town*
    -DREAMLAND** < fav instrumental after Cali Soca
     
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    Agreed
     
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  9. ninjames

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    I thought it was a really good story.. something I could totally relate to. The point was this album is associated with memories of youth and teenage years especially for that summer it was released. With that said... he's kind of a stupid dick for throwing me under the bus with that premature ejaculation comment.
     
  10. Cleon

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    I grew up on From Chaos. Before I got into 311 heavily, my bro would play FC and Evolver a lot in the car. I Told Myself used to be my beloved favorite way back haha.

    Him and his friend made a 311 mixtape for me that I listened to all the time. It was mostly From Chaos and Evolver, but also had the first 4 tracks from Blue, first 4 from Soundsystem, and the 3 singles from Transistor. That's what I basically fell in love with before I was old enough to buy CDs and actually delve into music. Before I bought 311 CDs for myself.

    So yeah, From Chaos is dope and always brings back so many old memories. The opener should be different and Bomb the Town should be on it, but other than that I have no complaints.

    My favorite tracks are Uncalm, I Told Myself, and From Chaos. Hostile Apostle, You Wouldn't Believe, and Sick Tight are really dope too.

    I agree it's underrated and deserves more love. Fans harp on Amber and I agree it's pretty annoying it's 311's most popular song, but at least it's a good song, it could be way worse. The current two singles from Mosaic suck ass and Amber trounces them. makes me appreciate Amber lol
     
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  11. SlowCrates

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    I made no such comment......
     
  12. cuscus

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    I was already a die hard 311 fan prior to the release and was really anticipating the release. A buddy and I even tuned into KROQ for the world premiere of You Wouldn't Believe. Being a bass player and heavily on the 311 Guitar Archive website (RIP), they somehow always had all the tracks listed, including B-Sides. So the outtakes like Will the World, Dreamland, Bomb the Town were all listed prior to final track listing and I remember just wondering what the songs would sound like solely based on the track title.

    When the album came out, it didn't mesh well with me the first listen through until Champagne and on. I think a lot of the Jungle Rock-Dancehall-Trip-Hop hybrid was a lot for me to digest at first. And the compositions and riffs were really weird to me as a newer young bass player (i.e. the end of Sick Tight with the percussive slap bass and pitch harmonics on guitar/Full Ride chorus/From Chaos Break Down). But then as a bass player, there was a lot to chew on and we got two bass solo break downs.

    And as for Amber, that originally came across as a really cool dub reggae song prior to it being a single. So it sucks that the overplay and stigma of the song as worn it down overtime, but that Guitar Center Session Amber performance brought back that cool old feeling.

    It's a weird album. I love it. And a good palate cleanser every so often.
     
  13. Sharkey

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    It was the album that got me back in to my 311 fandom and got me on to this damn message board back in the day.

    I first got into 311 when I had no business being a fan of that music at that age (7-8 years old) but after Blue and Transistor came out and they took that hiatus and I moved to a different city and Junior High happened a lot changed with my musical taste and for whatever reason 311 dropped off my radar and I sadly missed the whole Soundsystem era.

    From Chaos for the band and for me was like a second coming in the spotlight. They got big again on MTV and they were back on everyone’s radar thanks to Shaq and Amber. It was a new decade, a new generation and it’s never been the same for me ever since.

    What I’m trying to say is, Shaq is the reason I’m talking to you mustard cunts.
     
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    Dude.. same here. Exactly.. I didn't even know Come Original and Soundsystem existed... which is weird
     
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    You said I'm making a mess.. did I interpret this wrong.. were you not joking around?
     
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    Ohhh. Lol. I thought you got me mixed up with someone else for something that was said in another thread. Haha yeah, you read the mess part exactly as intended.
     
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    The only album that 311 released without me knowing about it right away (after I became a fan) was Transistor. I was looking to buy 'the' 311 album, expecting it to have all of the 311 that I was to that point aware of--Down, mostly. See, I didn't run out and buy any 311, I was content hitting record on the radio and filling my cassette tape with songs I liked. After I met another 311 fan, who not only had 'the' 311 album, but could play Down on guitar, I finally made purchasing 'the' 311 album my priority. I ended up with Transistor, which was disappointing for a minute. But it quickly became my favorite album, responsible for making 311 my favorite band. I haven't missed a release day since.
     
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    From Chaos didn't continue the elite streak they were on with the first five albums. Rather, it's a very solid album that complements everything that came before it really well.

    It's weird, because like @robb said, there's something about it that kind of goes straight through you even though it's enjoyable. What's also funny is that probably about a little more than half the album are crucial live staples to this day. I view it as kind of the center of the discography and it's the album I'd tell people to start with if they are just getting into 311. Chances are if a new fan likes FC, they'll find it very rewarding to go backwards from there.
     
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    After re-reading this in the light of day (thought it's actually night - that's when I check the board on weekends), my reply sounded super dick-ish. I didn't mean it was an actual bad story. I just meant it was a story about something we've been in similar situations. Not an exciting story, just something that means a lot to us. Something is crucial and vitally important to your past, but something that won't make the evening news.
     
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    Can you imagine a story that might make the evening news?

    Me, in an alternate reality:

    Showcrates

    While Ninja makes a Mess, lemme tell you a story about From Chaos that you wouldn't believe.

    It was the summer of 2001.

    I took my new 311 album backpacking through Okanogan County, Washington. I don't smoke, but I asked a fellow hiker for a cigarette. When I discarded the butt, there may have been a small fire.

    Later, about mid summer, I visited Baltimore, Maryland. I found a really cool, though sick tight train tunnel, and while singing along to hostile apostle, decided to check it out. I thought it was defunct, but when I found myself running from a screaming train (that will wake your mind up, lemme tell ya), I had to think fast, so I grabbed a fist full of rocks and chucked it at the train. To my amazement, it actually stopped the train, but it kind of ruined the tunnel.

    I went to Washington DC next. While singing along to Amber, I happened to run into George W. Bush who was drinking champagne, and obviously mulling whether or not to support embryonic stem cell research. I was like, "Bro, you seem un... calm. Lemme tell you watch'a oughtta do." and I flat out told him that Stem Cell research is demonic af. I never followed up with him so I don't know if he considered my advice.

    A few weeks later, with the album roaring through my headphones, I was trying to hook my remote control to a cell phone tower. I wanted to see if I could hack an airplane. I told myself, I'll be here a while, and whether I succeed or not, damn I was a clever sum'bitch. I later heard about a plane crash that happened that day, but I don't think I had anything to do with it.
     

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