311's Darkest songs / their Happy counterparts

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  1. SlowCrates

    SlowCrates Well-Known Member

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    I'll chime in later, but I'm at work. Just wanted to get the thread started.
     
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    Well I always found Use of Time to be a dark song. When I was younger I thought this was one of the greatest 311 songs ever, now it is just somewhere in the middle for me.

    Its happy counter part? I have no idea... Lyrically Island Sun might be the polar opposite of Use of Time. I dont know? I need help on finding the counterpart
     
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  3. RubADub

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    Darkest - Sever
    Happiest - Reggae Got Soul
     
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    Can reggae got soul really count?

    @SlowCrates are you talking on the same album or like, within the same general theme? Or are you just looking for dark 311 vs light 311...there are many instances I feel like.

    BTGS - clearly about suicide
    Sunset in July - clearly about bottle tops...err i mean, rockin out in the setting sun
     
  5. Cleon

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    I don't really know what you mean, like if they need to be related or something, but I always feel Starshines / Strangers has this. Starshines feels darker and then leads into Strangers which is brighter. I don't know if I'd call Starshines are really dark song, it's more in comparison to Strangers which it leads into.

    Also Will the World / Dreamland - the two instrumentals from From Chaos. Both are short and the only instrumentals, and Will the World is dark and Dreamland is bright.
     
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    If not, then Do You Right
     
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    Dark message - I Told Myself

    Happy Counterpart - I Told Myself's delivery and music.

    That song kicks fucking ass
     
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    Hostile Apostle
     
  9. SurferCaliSoca

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    Dark: Light Years
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    Happy: Rub a Dub

    Oh and..

    Dark: Color
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    Happy: Dreamland

    Does that count?^ does it need to be within same album or not?
     
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    Darkest = Most of Soundsystem

    Maybe that's why it's my favorite
     
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  11. shaft311

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    Right there with you, FM. Most GOOD music was written with because of terrible mental-states. Sever is my all-time favorite 311 song.

    Seal The Deal is second.
     
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    This isn't exactly on topic, because this isn't heads / tails of the same coin. But I find the OATS to Syntax transition to be incredible for a few reasons:

    OATS - sounds dark as hell, and the chorus / breakdown kicks like a mule that sounds like it'd be putting downer thoughts out there. But the lyrics are positive, and aggressively so.

    The heavy-ish ending flows seamlessly into the incredibly chipper beginning of Syntax.

    Syntax has those bouncy, fun-sounding verses leading into the soaring choruses. Superficially, it's a fun song. But the lyrics are incredibly depressing.

    This connection between the songs hit me a while back, and I love it. The songs are yin yang and yang yin. They manage to be polar opposites in multiple ways.
     
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    I made a playlist of (what I considered to be) the darkest song from each album:

    Fat Chance
    1,2,3
    Let The Cards Fall
    Use Of Time
    Sever
    Hostile Apostle
    Beyond The Gray Sky
    Solar Flare
    Get Down
    Rock On
    First Dimension
    Too Late

    It makes for a great listen. I love the way First Dimension leads into Too Late.
     
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    I think of 123 as the opposite of dark.
     
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    Maybe he was sodomized by The Count during a visit to Sesame Place.
     
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    Darkest to me, atleast in vibe (not lyrics necessarily) off the top of my head are -

    Made in the Shade - It's just a depressing vibe
    Seal the Deal - About regret. I think it may be about being/feeling trapped in a marriage?
    Tranquility - Seems like it is about death/dying. Feels like something that would be played at a funeral.
    Beyond the Gray Sky - about suicide
    Eons
    Sever
    Use of Time

    Happiest -

    Not sure I can give specific ones. There's all kinds of super happy/positive 311 songs. Like most of the blue album, for instance. And then there's the really poppy/happy stuff like Reggae Got Soul.
     
  17. Transistor101

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    It’s even better live when SA adds the harmonies
     
  18. Transistor101

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    Starshines is kind of its own dark / light counterpart, Nick’s half about saying hola being the light counterpart to SA’s apocalyptic half.

    Also, Use of Time and Writer’s Block Party also kind of fit the bill as they’re both about having writer’s block
     

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